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Thats A Bunch of Blu (Ray) Shit!

CPR_Jose_Ortiz

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"Spider-man 3 on Blu-ray is one of the Holiday season’s most highly anticipated releases on the 1080p high definition Blu-ray format but early adopters may have problems playing the disc in many of today’s Blu-ray players.

Using a review copy of "Spider-man 3" on Blu-ray on local tests at AVRev.com, the disc struggled to play in the brand new Samsung BD-P1400. After an excruciatingly long load-up time, the disc starts to freeze and skip from the very start. Audio dropping out, picture stuttering, you name it. Compared to the mainstream consumer’s expectation for DVD playback, most couldn’t make it to the actual film.

According to various reports, other players including units from Sony, Pioneer and other stand-alone Blu-ray players are reportedly having issues with the blockbuster and feature laden HD release.

Playstation 3 does come to the rescue. The game machine plays the disc like a champ. Although one of the first Blu-ray players on the market, the Sony Playstation 3 is without question the most reliable Blu-ray player on the market. While a game machine isn’t suited for many home theater applications, the lack of format incompatibilities paired with a low entry price makes the Playstation 3 the way many enthusiasts test the waters in a ferocious HD disc format war.

The release of Spider-man 3 on Blu-ray isn’t the first time that new blockbuster Blu-ray title has failed to play on existing machines. When "Pirates Of The Caribbean" 1 and 2 were released by Disney/Buena Vista, there was hardly a player out that could play the movies. All the first generation Blu-ray players required an immediate firmware update which requires a DVD-R disc being burnt on a PC and run on a machine or the units to be connected directly to the Internet. Each and every one of the AVRev.com reviewers and editors who were using the Samsung BDP-1000 were unable to play new Pirates Blu-ray discs without the firmware update. The new BD-Java encoding of disc (which was necessary for the interactive Liar's Dice game) ironically prevented the movie from playing. So a consumer pays $30 for a disc to watch the movie, and the bonus features of the disc make it not play at all. How intuitive is that?

"Pirates Of The Caribbean" wasn’t the end of Blu-ray titles being released and failing in many of the early players. Most recently, FOX released "The Day After Tomorrow" and "Fantastic Four: Rise Of The Silver Surfer" on Blu-ray. Both of these titles played on less than a handful of the players out there. Again, now it was the BD+ encoding of these discs reportedly that affected successful playback. A firmware update was needed by Samsung for the BDP-1000, which reportedly loaded the movie in an agonizing five plus minutes and then played the movie with more than its fair share of jitter, skipping, and freezing. The Samsung BD-P1200 reportedly did not play the movies at all. After inserting either of the discs, a screen appeared that stated the player could not play the discs and that a firmware upgrade was needed. Some of the newer players did better with the Fox and Disney titles. Playstation 3 still remains the most stable of the available players.

Consumers are struggling to understand why they need an HD disc player when DVDs work perfectly well in their systems. The difference between DVD and HD discs need to be seen and heard and then the upgrade is obvious. What is also obvious is the need for the Blu-ray camp to get their standards more stable so that studios can release top titles that work with relatively manageable number of Blu-ray players on the market. While the Playstation 3 is a tempting audience – it's not the only audience. A guy who drops $799 on a "top of the line" Blu-ray player, hooks it up via HDMI and is looking to the best video currently available doesn’t want to hear that his player won't play that latest disc or that he needs to spend hours burning and running firmware update discs before he can watch a new Blu-ray film."
 
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LOL !!! too funny!! That's what all those companies trying to get away from DVD and put really rough security on the new media get!!! I hope the whole blu-ray idea gets scrapped!
I don't like comapnies like this that lie to the public! IE "The new BD-Java encoding of disc (which was necessary for the interactive Liar's Dice game) ironically prevented the movie from playing" Was BS it was a security scheme they implemented that obviously did not work!
 

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LOL !!! too funny!! That's what all those companies trying to get away from DVD and put really rough security on the new media get!!! I hope the whole blu-ray idea gets scrapped!
I don't like comapnies like this that lie to the public! IE "The new BD-Java encoding of disc (which was necessary for the interactive Liar's Dice game) ironically prevented the movie from playing" Was BS it was a security scheme they implemented that obviously did not work!
You have Fox & Disney to thank for the "BD+" security encryption. Fox insisted on it and Disney became their cheerleader.

Also, had they not introduced the BD profiles in phases and just went full-spec from the beginning, they could of focused solely on firmware updates (like Toshiba did with HD DVD). With every player not being equipped with an Ethernet port, it only made the situation much more complicated and confusing for those unfortunate enough to have bought a profile 1.0 player (and a 1.1 player without the ability to update the firmware via the internet).

I died a little inside on January 4, 2008 (the day Warner announced the end of their support for HD DVD) and then a little more on January 13, 2008 (the day I bought a PS3 since it was to be the first BD profile 2.0 player on the market). It sucks, but the "format war" wasn't doing anyone any good. Ultimately, the side with the most backing and slickest advertising campaign prevailed. I would have loved to see the underdog beat the bully's ass, but it just wasn't meant to be.

Despite drinking the berry blue Kool-Aid, I don't at all regret tasting the cherry. ;)
 
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freestylegreek

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Blueray can hold more data on it and its for people who have lcd tvs and or plasma tvs so they can use the hdmi cable and get the most amazing picture possible.
 

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ok I dont consider myself dumb..but im not a genius either..and excuse me for not knowing this..but what is blue ray and whats the difference? is it better?
From Wikipedia:
Blu-ray Disc (also known as Blu-ray or BD) is an optical disc storage medium. Its main uses are high-definition video and data storage. The disc has the same physical dimensions as standard DVDs and CDs.

The name Blu-ray Disc is derived from the blue laser (violet-colored) used to read and write to this type of disc. Because of the wavelength (405 nanometres), substantially more data can be stored on a Blu-ray Disc than on the DVD format, which uses a red (650 nm) laser. A dual-layer Blu-ray Disc can store 50 gigabytes, almost six times the capacity of a dual-layer DVD, or ten and a half times that of a single-layer DVD.

During the format war over high-definition optical discs, Blu-ray Disc competed with the HD DVD format. On February 19, 2008, Toshiba—the main company supporting HD DVD—announced that it would no longer develop, manufacture, or market HD DVD players and recorders,[2] leading almost all other HD DVD companies to follow suit, effectively ending the format war.

Blu-ray Disc is developed by the Blu-ray Disc Association, a group representing makers of consumer electronics, computer hardware, and motion pictures. As of December 21, 2008, more than 890 Blu-ray disc titles are available in Australia, more than 720 Blu-ray Disc titles are available in Japan, more than 1,140 Blu-ray Disc titles are available in the United Kingdom, and more than 1,220 Blu-ray Disc titles are available in the United States.
Think of it as the next generation of DVD. To answer your question of "Is it better?", it's all a matter of opinion. Those of us already bitten by the high def bug will tell you "absolutely, without a doubt: YES".

The difference with making the jump from DVD to Blu-ray is not as dramatic, at first, as it was from VHS to DVD. Once you've been exposed to HD for several hours, only then will everything that makes the high definition viewing experience so great leap out at you as try to watch something in standard definition.

If you are already watching TV in HD, the difference between DVD and Blu-ray is very similar to switching between a non-HD broadcast and an HD one. It's night and day, though you will find that while HD TV can look very good, HD still looks best on disc.
 

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ohhhh I see......well thank you both for educating me a bit more! I do have HD and I can totally tell the difference from non HD
Upgrading from your DVD player to a Blu-ray Disc player is the next logical step. All Blu-ray players will play the DVDs you currently own and upscale them, too. :)

The prices for Blu-ray players and movies are starting to come down. The rumor mill has suggested that you'll be able purchase full-spec (profile 2.0) Blu-ray players for $150 before the end of the year. If you look around, you can find one or two for roughly $200 now. Movie prices average around $25, though only if you shop on-line. $30-$35 is still the norm at most stores. ;)
 
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You have Fox & Disney to thank for the "BD+" security encryption. Fox insisted on it and Disney became their cheerleader.

Yeah well don't be too happy yet wait until the big hammer falls down! Did you know BD-dvd and HD-dvd had a hidden security feature for the ones connect to the net?
They have a database of keys installed on the discs that is not copied over even when you make a legit copy for back up purpose!
You put backup in and it checks Databse sees it's a copy and depending on which scheme they use either will not play or downgrades playback to very low quality!
One of the schemes even keeps a tally of how many times your player registers a fake and then the MPAA gets involved!
Actually it was MPAA and assorted high interest companies requiring it. So the new discs don't become like DVD and VHS which are running rampant with fakes!
 

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You have Fox & Disney to thank for the "BD+" security encryption. Fox insisted on it and Disney became their cheerleader.
Yeah well don't be too happy yet wait until the big hammer falls down! Did you know BD-dvd and HD-dvd had a hidden security feature for the ones connect to the net?
They have a database of keys installed on the discs that is not copied over even when you make a legit copy for back up purpose!
You put backup in and it checks Databse sees it's a copy and depending on which scheme they use either will not play or downgrades playback to very low quality!
One of the schemes even keeps a tally of how many times your player registers a fake and then the MPAA gets involved!
Actually it was MPAA and assorted high interest companies requiring it. So the new discs don't become like DVD and VHS which are running rampant with fakes!
Welcome to the digital age, my friend. Sacrificing privacy is the price you have to pay for "connectivity".
 
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Welcome to the digital age, my friend. Sacrificing privacy is the price you have to pay for "connectivity".
shhh I still won't buy one! :rotf: My 500 plus DVD's are fine and the Players I have are working just fine. I can still go to wal mart and replace one for $40 if anything happens to it! All my PCs play DVD as well so no need to switch.
Besides I watch most of my movies online or at the movies anyways.
Laptop is hooked up to main set in living room and picture is great!
Even online low quality movies and tv like Hulu.com ;)
 

CPR_Jose_Ortiz

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Connectivity.
PS3, XBOX 360, HD DVD and BLU RAY DISC.
Don't forget your Iphones and new PSP; They want all of your information.
And they are going to get it by all means necessary.
 
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