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Is it time?

TearEmUp

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Maybe my time here is drawing to an end. Since I have been accused of being a zealot, and now classless, perhaps it is time for me to move on....I'll let you all decide....However if my point of view is so different that it is time to move on everyone here needs to ask themselves a deep question. Am I open enough to respect, and like, someone I disagree with. Or, am I not strong enough in my beliefs to oppose another individual, and do so with mutual respect?

I have learned over the course of my life it is those I debate with that I learn the most from. When our founding fathers met for the First Continental Congress they did not all agree. Jefferson, himself a socialist, knew that way of life was not the right direction to take.

Thomas Paine was an atheist, yet his contributions have been heralded as the catalyst of the Declaration Of Independence. Yet In God We Trust is everywhere in our historical documents.

Madison favored a very strong military, while others debated against it. Hence the second amendment.

No one knew WHAT the President should "be" like in the beginning. Is he a king? What do they call him? Congress wrangled over this for days - so long that it became a joke, and the newspapers brutally pointed out that there were more pressing concerns for the infant nation than a 5-day long debate over whether the President should be called "Your Highness" or "Mr". John Adams, who thought the nomenclature of the President was of utmost importance, and spearheaded the long debate about it became a laughingstock (notes being passed back and forth in Congress, basically saying: "Jesus, John, this is not a big deal ... Please stop!"). Adams thought the President should be referred to as, "Your Highness, The President of the United States." (Later, when it was rumored that Adams was a secret monarchist, this innocent "Your Highness" suggestion of his would come back and bite him in the ass.) Somehow, the nonsensical debate ended, much to everyone's relief, and they just settled on the plainer more republican title "Mr. President".

Not agreeing is imperative to any respectable adult relationship. But, if my point of view has so alienated most of you then, it is time to move on? You tell me......
 
Terry, you are not, and don't even think of going any where, or you will hear from me over the phone..., But when we try to look at the positive side of the spectrum, then we ween out the negative portion, we all have done good and bad deeds in our life time, but in theory we normally try to remember the positive aspects of the life...Could you imagine Terry, if you were at his funeral, and you got up on the platform and made that comment, what do you think might of happened to you, and again, in a joking manner..? It will not go to well with the people there, shit, even if it were to be true, it is just not the right moment to do that...So Terry, we all makes errors, don't take it the wrong way, and you know that I am a reasonable person, I also like to discuss situations, and come to a common ground, where we both can come to an understanding...So, again, get that out of your head, you are not going any where, and I don't think of you in a negative way, on the contrary, you are a smart guy, and I appreciate that in you...Thank-you...
 
So help me God Terry!! I will grab you by your alien antennas! and drag your ass back here!!

Do not take things so personally, especially when you know yourself that the comments, posts, etc. you place or make always stirs the kool-aid of internal debate, denial, negative (or positive) energy, new founding, or whatever they feel like referring it to.

You should know by now what you say, not everyone will agree to. It's the consequences of freedom of speech.

YOU'RE NOT LEAVING!! :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:
 
Are You Kidding Me?

Maybe my time here is drawing to an end. Since I have been accused of being a zealot, and now classless, perhaps it is time for me to move on....I'll let you all decide....However if my point of view is so different that it is time to move on everyone here needs to ask themselves a deep question. Am I open enough to respect, and like, someone I disagree with. Or, am I not strong enough in my beliefs to oppose another individual, and do so with mutual respect?.

The only one that can decide whether or not if its time for you to leave is you. And on the maturity question ask yourself this question... Why did you decide to post a should I leave or should I stay thread, when the mature thing to do would have been to speak with me directly.
 
There are things that people say that later on they want to take back. You posted what you posted on the Michael Jackson thread and APOLOGIZED!

No one bashed you, but instead, the members corrected you (family corrects family)

Do not leave it up to the members as to whether or not you should stay.
 
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Well hopefully after getting some sleep this whole thread will become a moot point!

We're all adults here even though we don't act like it sometimes...oh OK! Most of the time! ;) I'm sure we can get past this just as we've gotten past other things that have happened here and there.

We're family! :)
 
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